The last article we published dealt with confusion some readers have with the teachings of S.R. Shearer, who we used to work with.  Our only plea was “We welcome debate and trust Steve Shearer will stick to the issues rather than resorting to personal attacks.”   Sadly, instead of sticking to issues, he resorted to a 30 page personal attack on Doug Krieger and me – highlighted in red so it is easy to see.  He brought up wives, children, past associations, employment – all personal items in an attempt to cast aspersions us.  I don’t know about you all, but no one has to tell me I am fallen and unworthy.  My only plea is the blood of Jesus to make me whiter than snow and His Holy Spirit to transform me day by day. 

The big difference between the two ministries is we don’t presume to know God’s will for you.  We don’t tell you how to think or what to do.  We present information and let you take it before the Lord and separate the meat from the bones.  The other major difference is that we don’t accept money – never have and never will. 

Now, quickly returning to a couple of issues he raised.  Both Doug and I believe that the rapture occurs at the end of the seventieth week of Daniel at the last trumpet just before the judgment of the earth.  Anyone familiar with our writings on the internet will know this is true.  That said, at one time we both believed in the pre-tribulation rapture but through revelation and study of the Word we were convinced otherwise.  Does it matter?  Yes, to a certain extent but it will become obvious as time goes on.  But, we have many dear friends such as Bill and Jackie Alnor, Jack Hook and others who don’t agree with us.  Are we going to cut them off?  Of course not.  Where is the grace for others?

The other issue is we are accused of not recognizing “the physicality of Babylon”.  Again, I don’t know if Steve has ever read any of our articles but we are quite clear on America being prophetic Babylon.  In fact, I wrote a whole book on it titled “In Search of Babylon.”  Doug’s books, “The Rise or Fall of American Empire” and books on the False Prophet and the Antichrist, are hardly mealy mouthed compromising works.  Nor do we discount the role of America in prophecy but deal with it in tremendous depth.  There are two things to be said about America as Babylon.  First, there is no doubt as we say again and again that America is prophetic Babylon: apostate Christian (Revelation 17), the great economic power and consumer nation (Revelation 18) and the main political/military power on earth (Revelation 19), as well as Israel’s only friend with the power to enforce a defense treaty (Daniel 9:27).  “In Search of Babylon” clearly exposes America’s economic and military empire.  Second, yes, America is evil but it is naive to think any other nation is less evil for “the whole earth lies under the sway in the evil one.”  (I John 5:19)  Our position is that you can’t escape from Babylon but Christians are called to stand and deliver in the midst of the evil.   It is simplistic to assume one can hop across the border to Canada or Mexico, set up shop and everything will be okay.  The global reach of America we all talk about and the police state Steve talks about in this article will render escape impossible.  No, at the end of the day we will rise or fall based upon our relationship with the Lord and other saints.

Steve concludes, “But those prisses and wimps like Dene McGriff, Doug Krieger, Gloria Cooper and Bob Mertes who remain in Babylon after failing to obey God's command to COME OUT will have little or nothing to do with this testimony.”  Again, I dealt with the issues in my last article.  The reason this is not just another trivial doctrine but a tremendous guilt trip Steve puts on his readers, is that he believes that any Christian who fails to leave America before its judgment is doomed along with unbelievers.  How presumptuous of Steve to dare to think he knows the will of God for every Christian in America!

Wow!  Another article just came out.  This one accusing a mutual friend, Loel and me of being involved in Ponzi schemes.  Again, network marketing, especially the one Loel is in is legitimate and a way of selling quality products.  I haven’t done any network marketing for over ten years… but again, when you don’t have a job, it’s better than starving.  To say that everyone who is involved in MLM is greedy makes no sense. 

We welcome intelligent debate but trust you can make your point without resorting to personal attacks and name calling.  

 

Babylon, America, the Church and
Liberation Theology

By Dene McGriff

Note:  Antipas has posted a response on their website.  A reader responded with verses from Jeremiah 50 and 51 which they think proves their case that Christians should flee America - a very thin and questionable interpretation.  Unfortunately, they do not understand the timing of the events of Revelation 16 to 19 and do not address the concerns raised below.  We welcome debate and trust Steve Shearer will stick to the issues rather than resorting to personal attacks.

 

One of the signs of the end times is false and misleading teaching. Christians need to be informed and discerning in spirit to know what is true and what isn’t. There is a ministry that has a similar message and draws many of the same readers. I refer to the teachings of S.R. (Steve) Shearer of Antipas Ministries. Both Doug Krieger and I have known Steve for nearly 50 years and both worked along with him at one time in Antipas Ministries. Our problems with S.R. are not based on personality but upon certain teachings which we find spurious and misleading. So for the sake of our readers, we are going to shine the light on some of those differences. Specifically, it has do with Steve’s insistence that Christians must flee Babylon/America immediately (i.e., physically remove themselves from the USA or any of its commonwealth or territories). Also, his militantly negative attitude toward the church in general and his apparent support for a form of liberation-socialist theology, deeply concerns us.

But first, let’s look at the similarities. We agree that in all likelihood, the only nation that fits the Scriptural description of prophetic Babylon is America. I lay out detailed arguments in a twenty one chapter book entitled “In Search of Mystery Babylon” and Doug Krieger in “The Rise or Fall of the American Empire” clearly portrays America as the “political Babylon” of the Last Days. There are various articles and other books we have written which deal with this subject on our site. We both agree that the rapture of the Church occurs at the end of the Tribulation before the “wrath of God – wrath of the Lamb.” (i.e., at the close of Daniel’s 70th Week but before the 30 days of “wrath” and the 45 days of Messiah’s unveiling to Israel – ref. Daniel 12:10-13). We both agree that Israel and the Church are the two olive trees and two lampstands of Revelation 11 and have a major role in the Last Days as the “two witnesses.” We, S.R. and ourselves, extensively fellowshipped on these issues going back as far as the 1960s. Now, however, we will examine our differences.

 

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MAN vs. BOY?

 

Written By  KEN VENTURA

 

Stand up like a Man! 

For I will demand it of you, and you will answer to Me.

God (Job 38:3)

 

 

The feminization of America and elsewhere around the globe has resulted in a “boyish generation” regrettably ill-prepared for the turbulent times in which we live and the coming onslaught of the Prince of this World.

 

Therefore, a read that has embedded within it the essence of the Son of Man – BEHOLD THE MAN – is of supreme importance, not only for its cultural enlightenment but for its courageous incursion as a major prophetic announcement to the Church in these last days.  

 

“Watch, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men (be brave), be strong” (I Corinthians 16:13) has far more to do with valiant opposition to the apostasy that grips today’s Church than you can fathom – this is no casual association – today’s “boys” proliferate in their apostate practices and we who claim the mantle of a man allow them their suffrage!  No wonder the women of this generation hold such contempt for males who bemoan their juvenile state of affairs and yearn for manly leadership lost in a bygone generation that was our best. 

 

Audacious pronouncement:  “The #1 Battle Facing America”- and you thought it was greed, selfishness, corruption in high places, etc. – these be but symptoms of our shameful condition – the cause abides elsewhere and this is what Ken Ventura calls “Man vs. boy.”  May I boldly declare, this is what is at the core of our malaise, confusion and cultural disintegration.  The narcissistic behavior known as the “me generation” has left us spiritually, emotionally, mentally and culturally bereft. 

 

I strongly urge you to get the book.  It was my honor to assist Ken in portions of his text – for I am convinced that if we “band of brothers” unwaveringly wish to lead this generation into the Church’s greatest hour – the momentous climax of the ages prior to His coming again in glory – then let us abandon our boyhood and become as His “companions who sit before you,” . . . for only then shall we be “men of a sign (or “wonder”)” to this generation – “For behold, I am bringing forth My Servant the BRANCH” (Zechariah 3:8).

 

It is my conviction that only when we BEHOLD THE MAN who came as “My Servant the Branch” – then and only then shall we be that prophetic witness to the confusion about us all; hope amidst despair; and unvarnished truth in a world of uncertain sounds where boyish babbling “accuses and excuses” rather than stands forth to declare the truth that is in Christ Jesus, the Son of God and Son of Man.

Doug Krieger
 

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Catastrophes and Conspiracies

By Dene McGriff

 

 

And there will be great (Grk. “mega”) earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven…
These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.

Luke 21:11; Revelation 17:13